Model comparison
Qwen 3.8 27B vs Qwen 3.8 Max
Two Qwen tiers compared on the figures that decide which one a workload actually needs.
Qwen 3.8 27B: profile checked October 25, 2026Qwen 3.8 Max: profile checked October 25, 2026Individual provider fields may changeEvidence confidence: Medium — see receipts below
Qwen
Qwen 3.8 27B
Budget · Open weights
Qwen
Qwen 3.8 Max
Frontier
| Specification | Qwen 3.8 27B | Qwen 3.8 Max |
|---|---|---|
| Provider | ||
| Provider | Qwen | Qwen |
| Tier | ||
| Tier | Budget | Frontier |
| Context window | ||
| Context window | 262K | Winner: 1M |
| Max output | ||
| Max output | Not verifiedUnverified | 131K |
| Input / 1M tokens | ||
| Input / 1M tokens | Winner: $0.50 | $2 |
| Output / 1M tokens | ||
| Output / 1M tokens | Winner: $3 | $6 |
| Weights | ||
| Weights | Open | Closed |
| Parameters | ||
| Parameters | 27B dense VLM (Gated DeltaNet hybrid) | 2.4T total (MoE; managed active count not verified) |
| Reasoning levels | ||
| Reasoning levels | low, medium, xhigh | low, medium, xhigh |
| Modalities | ||
| Modalities | text, image, video | text, image, video |
| License | ||
| License | Apache 2.0 | Not verifiedUnverified |
| API model id | ||
| API model id | qwen3.8-27b | qwen3.8-max |
| Released | ||
| Released | Not verifiedUnverified | August 3, 2026 |
| Artificial Analysis Intelligence Index [xhigh] · source date Qwen 3.8 27B: 2026-10-01 | ||
| Artificial Analysis Intelligence Index [xhigh] · source date Qwen 3.8 27B: 2026-10-01 | 34 | Not verifiedUnverified |
| Artificial Analysis Intelligence Index · source date Qwen 3.8 Max: 2026-10-01 | ||
| Artificial Analysis Intelligence Index · source date Qwen 3.8 Max: 2026-10-01 | Not verifiedUnverified | 45 |
| Terminal-Bench 2.1 · source date Qwen 3.8 Max: 2026-10-01 | ||
| Terminal-Bench 2.1 · source date Qwen 3.8 Max: 2026-10-01 | Not verifiedUnverified | 86.6 |
| GPQA Diamond · source date Qwen 3.8 Max: 2026-10-01 | ||
| GPQA Diamond · source date Qwen 3.8 Max: 2026-10-01 | Not verifiedUnverified | 92.6 |
| Humanity's Last Exam · source date Qwen 3.8 Max: 2026-08-14 | ||
| Humanity's Last Exam · source date Qwen 3.8 Max: 2026-08-14 | Not verifiedUnverified | 56.2 |
Dates beside benchmark scores refer to the linked source’s publication or capture date unless that source explicitly states when it measured the result. A shared URL alone does not establish comparable runs; unverified setups are marked. Prices are USD per million tokens at standard rates, excluding batch and caching discounts. Values we could not confirm from the provider are shown as “Not verified” rather than estimated.
Benchmark receipts
Where each score comes from, and how far it can be compared across models.
- Source date2026-10-01Qwen official checkpoint card reproducing the managed Max evaluation table (vendor) (Managed Qwen3.8-Max column; complete run configuration unverified)
Graduate-level science reasoning: multiple-choice questions written by domain PhDs.
Comparable with caveatDo not treat a fixed two-point band as universal measurement uncertainty; it depends on run count and evaluation setup. Chain-of-thought, prompt, and tool policy must match. The small pool limits fine-grained conclusions, and frontier scores can be near ceiling; Artificial Analysis dropped it from its Intelligence Index in v4.3.
- Source date2026-10-01Qwen official checkpoint card reproducing the managed Max evaluation table (vendor) (Managed Qwen3.8-Max column; Claude Code avg@10, 5-hour timeout, max_tokens 131,072; exact run date unverified)
Agentic terminal work: multi-step tasks executed in a sandboxed shell environment.
Comparable with caveatNot comparable with Terminal-Bench 3.0 or 4.0 (different task sets) or v1; harness configuration (container, time limits) also shifts results.
- Source date2026-10-01Artificial Analysis (Qwen3.8 Max (0902))
Composite index blending reasoning, knowledge, and coding evals into one 0–100 score.
Comparable with caveatOnly same-version scores are comparable. v4.3.2 was rebaselined (the top score fell from 66 on v4.1.1 to ~58), so v4.1.1 figures must not be compared with v4.3.2 figures — check the cited source and its date.
- Source date2026-10-01Artificial Analysis (Qwen3.8 27B (xhigh))
Composite index blending reasoning, knowledge, and coding evals into one 0–100 score.
Comparable with caveatOnly same-version scores are comparable. v4.3.2 was rebaselined (the top score fell from 66 on v4.1.1 to ~58), so v4.1.1 figures must not be compared with v4.3.2 figures — check the cited source and its date.
- Source date2026-08-14Z.ai GLM-5.3 vendor evaluation of Qwen3.8-Max, with tools; distinct from Qwen no-tools results
Frontier-knowledge ceiling: extremely hard multi-domain questions written to be near-impossible without deep expertise.
Comparable with caveatSubset/tool configurations (text-only vs with-tools) differ between vendors and materially change scores; must match configuration to compare.
Pricing tiers
Qwen 3.8 27B: Hosted qwen3.8-27b International lists USD/MTok input/output $0.50/$3; Beijing lists $0.424/$1.696. QwenCloud marketplace quotes implicit cache $0.10, explicit creation $0.625/read $0.05. Its hosted card lists 1M context and 131K maximum response; the Apache-2.0 downloadable checkpoint has 262,144 native context. August 19 is the hosted listing, not proof of exact weight-publication day. Recommended generation budgets do not establish a hard native output cap.
Qwen 3.8 Max: Alibaba Model Studio USD/MTok: Singapore International and Virginia US scope input/output $2/$6, implicit cache $0.25, explicit creation $2.50/read $0.17. Beijing and Global scopes $1.65/$4.951, implicit $0.206, explicit creation $2.063/read $0.137. The base Beijing card quotes Batch File $0.825/$2.475 and Batch Chat $1.65/$4.951, but the 0902 snapshot card marks Batch unsupported; do not assume alias or snapshot Batch eligibility from the price cells. Other scopes mark Batch unsupported. These are list prices excluding console-only offers. Context 1,000,000; input 991,808 non-thinking/983,616 thinking; output 131,072 and reasoning 262,144 are separate published limits, with permitted combinations dependent on request settings.
Qwen 3.8 27B
Qwen 3.8 27B is Alibaba's compact deployment-friendly dense VLM — 262K native context (1M via YaRN), Apache 2.0 weights, distinct from the hosted Qwen 3.8 Max API.
Best for
- Self-hosting on a single node
- Multimodal input at small scale
- Long-context on modest hardware
Watch out
Native thinking defaults xhigh and supports low/medium/xhigh or non-thinking; preserve_thinking defaults true. Exact checkpoint release day and hard native output cap remain unverified. Managed 1M limits do not transfer to local weights. The native card recommends 131,072 final output for complex work, not a guaranteed generation cap. Quantization, memory and context scaling need target-hardware validation; video is input, text is output.
Qwen 3.8 Max
Qwen 3.8 Max is Alibaba's managed multimodal flagship, with a vendor-described 2.4T MoE scale and 1M context.
Best for
- Hosted agentic work
- Long-context
- Multimodal
Watch out
Managed Max accepts text/image/video and thinking on/off; native 2.4T-A95B is text-only and requires thinking. Native active-parameter counts and 262,144 context do not describe the managed serving variant. Low/medium/xhigh, default xhigh, with preserved thinking by default; reasoning_effort and thinking_budget cannot be set together. The September 5 alias update targets 0902, while native checkpoint and historical benchmark identities stay separate. Base-card versus snapshot Batch flags conflict; region/API-key scope must be checked.
When the cheaper one wins
Qwen 3.8 27B is cheaper on output at $3 per million tokens against $6 for Qwen 3.8 Max — about 2.0×. Use the cheaper tier for classification, extraction, summarisation, and any task where the expensive model’s extra score does not change the accepted output. The expensive one only pays if your hardest task actually fails on the cheap tier. This compares standard short-context token rates, not total cost per accepted task. Include input, cache, context tiers, schedules, retries and review in your pilot.
Run the model pickerEvidence confidence: Medium
How strong and complete the evidence behind this comparison is — not a prediction of which model is better.
- Pricing verified on both sides — Input and output rates are verified for both models.
- 3/5 core specs verified on both sides — Not published for at least one side: max output, release date.
- No directly aligned benchmark setup — No benchmark has matching cited sources, source dates, units, effort and recorded run details on both models.
- Verified within the last 90 days — Older of the two catalog checks was 1 day ago.
- Both models carry source citations — Each side has at least two catalog sources on record.
Source receipts
Each catalog figure was checked against the provider or an independent second source on the date shown.
- Qwen 3.8 27B: Current scoped source review: exact publisher model, tariff, licence or lifecycle evidence (accessed 2026-10-25)
- Qwen 3.8 27B: Current scoped source review: exact publisher model, tariff, licence or lifecycle evidence (accessed 2026-10-25)
- Qwen 3.8 27B: Current scoped source review: exact publisher model, tariff, licence or lifecycle evidence (accessed 2026-10-25)
- Qwen 3.8 27B: Current scoped source review: exact publisher model, tariff, licence or lifecycle evidence (accessed 2026-10-25)
- Qwen 3.8 27B: Current scoped source review: exact publisher model, tariff, licence or lifecycle evidence (accessed 2026-10-25)
- Qwen 3.8 27B: LiveBench Leaderboard (Qwen 3.8 27B row) (accessed 2026-08-29)
- Qwen 3.8 Max: Current scoped source review: exact publisher model, tariff, licence or lifecycle evidence (accessed 2026-10-25)
- Qwen 3.8 Max: Current scoped source review: exact publisher model, tariff, licence or lifecycle evidence (accessed 2026-10-25)
- Qwen 3.8 Max: Current scoped source review: exact publisher model, tariff, licence or lifecycle evidence (accessed 2026-10-25)
- Qwen 3.8 Max: Current scoped source review: exact publisher model, tariff, licence or lifecycle evidence (accessed 2026-10-25)
- Qwen 3.8 Max: Current scoped source review: exact publisher model, tariff, licence or lifecycle evidence (accessed 2026-10-25)
- Qwen 3.8 Max: Current scoped source review: exact publisher model, tariff, licence or lifecycle evidence (accessed 2026-10-25)
- Qwen 3.8 Max: Current scoped source review: exact publisher model, tariff, licence or lifecycle evidence (accessed 2026-10-25)
- Qwen 3.8 Max: Current scoped source review: exact publisher model, tariff, licence or lifecycle evidence (accessed 2026-10-25)
- Qwen 3.8 Max: Current scoped source review: exact publisher model, tariff, licence or lifecycle evidence (accessed 2026-10-25)
- Qwen 3.8 Max: Current scoped source review: exact publisher model, tariff, licence or lifecycle evidence (accessed 2026-10-25)
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Common questions
Qwen 3.8 27B vs Qwen 3.8 Max
Answered from the verified figures on this page rather than general guidance.
Is Qwen 3.8 27B or Qwen 3.8 Max cheaper for input?
Is Qwen 3.8 27B or Qwen 3.8 Max cheaper for output?
Which has the larger context window, Qwen 3.8 27B or Qwen 3.8 Max?
Do Qwen 3.8 27B and Qwen 3.8 Max support the same reasoning levels?
Should I use Qwen 3.8 27B or Qwen 3.8 Max?
Can I self-host Qwen 3.8 27B or Qwen 3.8 Max?
Next step
Choosing between them
The verified figures that separate this pair, computed from the catalog rather than restated boilerplate.
- Input price: Qwen 3.8 27B costs $0.50 per 1M tokens versus $2 for Qwen 3.8 Max — a 4x difference at the headline tier.
- Context: Qwen 3.8 Max takes 1M against 262K for Qwen 3.8 27B — only decisive if your prompts approach the smaller window.
- Deployment: Qwen 3.8 27B publishes weights you can self-host; the other is API-only.
- Positioning: Qwen 3.8 27B sits in the budget tier, Qwen 3.8 Max in the frontier tier. Compare accuracy, reliability, latency, and cost on representative tasks before choosing.
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